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good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in realtime and picking one?

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Tue, 05/08/2012 - 23:17
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Dieter@be
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good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in realtime and picking one?

Hey,
I have a project with an audio track, and 3 video tracks, all video tracks having either a long clip or multiple shorter ones (sometimes with gaps in between), all are of course in sync with the audio track (and hence with each other). The video clips are basically the same thing being filmed, but from different angles

What I'm trying to do is compose a video, using the best clips from different angles. But I haven't found a good workflow to do this.
Maybe I'm missing something, but the default way of having 1 project preview and separate clip previews is not very convenient. As, the project is playing, I'ld like to see all the video tracks playing at the same time (as well as the project video stream), then I could more easily see which clip I want to use at each point.

thanks,
Dieter

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Wed, 05/09/2012 - 06:02
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yellow
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Re: good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in ...

What you're after is a multicam edit feature like some commercial NLEs. Doesn't exist for kdenlive. Blender has a multicam tool in its VSE, video sequence editor.

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Wed, 05/09/2012 - 09:32
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Hi Dieter@be,

I'm in the same situation all the time and the workaround I use - unless I've misunderstood your question - is to overlay the 3 clips (or 4 or whatever) on a black track with composite transitions scaled down and moved to different parts of the screen. In other words, I use composite transitions to split the project preview screen in 3 sections (or 4, etc) so I can watch the clips at the same time.
Then I use guides to mark in and out points of each clip and then go back and do the final compositing (and remove, or mute, the black track)
I hope this makes sense.

As this is my first post, I would also like to thank the developers for this fantastic tool.
I can't wait to see the results of the code refactoring (have donated, of course) and the new features that will be added in 0.8.4. I find the new effect workflow of 0.8.3 a huge leap forward and I'm really looking forward to a production-stable release including it.
Also many thanks to the community for support and help in this forum.
Cheers

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Wed, 05/09/2012 - 10:08
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Re: good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in ...

ok thanks yellow. just tried out the blender VSE and found it quite hard to use. I'll stick to kdenlive for now..

edit: @garp: thanks, that looks like a nice trick. I'll try it out. I still have to learn how to use effects/transitions though, I tried a few times but didn't see any result :)

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Wed, 05/09/2012 - 14:01
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Re: good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in ...

You can preview up to 4 clips at once by right clicking on the project monitor and then checking "split view".

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Wed, 05/09/2012 - 22:30
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Dieter@be
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Re: good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in ...

thanks ttill! that works indeed, although as soon as 2 clips are being shown at the same time, playback gets stuttery and kdenlive crashes.

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Wed, 05/09/2012 - 23:38
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Re: good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in ...

Split View, well I never. :-)

Dieter@be, Stuttering and crashing with or without proxies?

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Thu, 05/10/2012 - 10:32
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Re: good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in ...

Without proxies. I just read about them (http://www.kdenlive.org/forum/proxy-clips-hd-editing), glad to see they are now built into kdenlive. Will test with proxies enabled. thanks.

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Fri, 11/23/2012 - 22:51
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Re: good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in ...

Garp - sent you an email, here is what it said if anybody else want to chime in here!

OK, what you have described here is precisely what I want to do, and going crazy trying to accomplish:

"I'm in the same situation all the time and the workaround I use - unless I've misunderstood your question - is to overlay the 3 clips (or 4 or whatever) on a black track with composite transitions scaled down and moved to different parts of the screen. In other words, I use composite transitions to split the project preview screen in 3 sections (or 4, etc) so I can watch the clips at the same time."

Can you post a step by step recipe for doing this? I am running Kdenlive 0.9.2 on a Macbook Pro installed via Macports. I have put two clips on tracks 1 and 2 and a black color chip on track 3. I can resize track 1 so it appears as 1/4 of the screen, and position it where I want, but for the life of me, I cannot get track 2 to show up. This gives me a small window for track 1 over the black color clip, and I cannot get track 2 to display at all. If I don't have a color clip, I get track 1 as a 1/4 size window over track 2 in full size no matter what parameters I put in for the composite transition! Driving me nuts!

I don't want to give up on Kdenlive, but I need to figure this out!

Thanks.

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Sat, 11/24/2012 - 09:31
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Re: good workflow for comparing multiple videoclips in ...

Perhaps this video can help you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEu27QCQUb8&feature=relmfu

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