make scrolling credits

I need to make scrolling credits, like most movie do. I know how to enter a text, but how can I make it scroll from the bottom to the top?


I guess you mean what is explained below (in another topic) in this board.

See End titles

it's nearly this. However
* In have an image (png) of 720 px wide and film 720 pixel wide. In the timeline, the text *is* as large as the image, but on the monitor and on the rendering the text is much smaller in width (see the result


* I would like to have this:

but it's already good

jdd wrote:
it's nearly this. However
* In have an image (png) of 720 px wide and film 720 pixel wide. In the timeline, the text *is* as large as the image, but on the monitor and on the rendering the text is much smaller in width (see the result


* I would like to have this:

but it's already good

To me it appears that you only have to adjust the size (to be exactky the width) of the PIP transition frame, then the scrolling text should be wider and more screen filling.

From the same post I referred to:

"Then, add the image to Kdenlive, add a "PIP" transition and adjust size, start position and end position so that the image starts at the bottom of the screen and ends above it.

I am not at a Linux PC at this moment, and not able to open kdenlive now, but I guess the PIP transition functions offers configuration parameters to not only adjust the position were the franme starts and where it ends, but also the dimensions of the frame itself.

Keep trying!

well if I open the properties windows, I have the correct width: , but not in the film. i will keep trying (too late today), even if there is a bug somewhere it may be possible to trick (let only give a bigger width)
I don't see any width setup, if the PIP is the french "Déplacement" (localized programs make communication more difficult)

It is not the properties of the image clip itself that causes the problem. You made your iamge just fine with the 720px.

What I meant was adjusting the properties of the PIP transition, not the properties of the image clip.

When I open PIP transition I can adjust (from top to bottom) transparency, SIZE, horizontal position and vertical position.
In order to have produced the scrolling text, you must have adjusted horizontal and vertical position for both START and END of the transition (the four parameters just mentioned can be set for the START and the END of the transition (two radio buttons right above these 4 parameters).
The scrolling effect can only be realised when the start position differs from the end position.

Since you have a working example of scrolling text that is only still to narrow, my guess would be to adjust size in the PIP transition window in both ¨ start¨ and ¨ end¨ modus.
I hope you understand what I am trying to explain...good luck!

in fact I think I didn't use the right transition (I use the "deplacement", second from top). The third one, who might be the (english) PIP, I can't make it work, I have ti try again :-(


Deplacement is the PUSH option in english ;-)
You indeed need the PIP (picture-In-picture) to get it working I guess.

Sometimes images say more than words ;-)

In my attached example image you see the dutch translation ;-)

So say the end of your movie in the timeline is in track 1, and you add your image clip with the credits text in it above it in Track 0.
Then right click on the track 0 image clip and choose to add transition (top option in menu that appears, don´t know how it is called in french) and then PIP (third option in the appearing submenu).
Now you get the screen which I posted with the attached image above.

Then check first that the radio button START is selected.
Now keep transparency at zero (if you want a black background and not see the scrolling text mixed with the ending video). Adjust size (let´s start with just size 100 as it is, keep horzontal position at 0 to start with, and change vertical position to say 100. You see the green rectangle move downwards from the white rectangle (which is your movie frame). The trick is then to select the end radiobutton at the top (the right one, left is start), and again fill in 0 for transparency and horizontal position, 100 for size, and (HERE IS THE TRICK) for example -100 (mind the - minus) for vertical position.
When you then play the movie the credits text image file will move from the bottom to the top (the route the green rectangle makes from start to end). The speed at which it scrolls can be adjusted either by the length of the clip/transition, or by playing with starting and ending vertical positions that are further away or closer by from each other.
Once working you might want to experiment with the size if you want to (that zooms in and out so to say). I noticed meanwhile that size must probably be around 200 at least if you want the text clip to be screen filling with regard to width...

I don't know how to insert an image here, so the link to cjoint below.

I don't have the same kdenlive version as you have (mine is 0.6.0-svn, fromopenSUSE 10.3) and the transition don't ave the same layout!
and the layout is not clean, changes in the transition setup don't show simply in the timeline
The difference is in the "keyframe". One must now create keyframes corresponding to the setup, and this works or don't works, depending of I don't know what. New kdenlive is sometimes extremely slow.
However I achieve to have the good result (almost, scrolls but not like the starwars effet I seeked for).
I had to use two keyframes (one at the beginning, one at the end, of course) with the setup:
beginning : tranparency 0, size 500, H -200, V 110
end : T 0, S 500, H -200, V -500
Processing on Youtube is very long this morning, I will post the video asap
thanks :-)

jdd wrote:
However I achieve to have the good result (almost, scrolls but not like the starwars effet I seeked for).

At least now you have the scrolling thing working. Nice.
To configure it in a star wars like manner (now I understand what you mean...text more or less disappearing in a black hole or coming out of a black hole), I do not know whether that is possible in kdenlive ( I have version 0.5 BTW) , but certainly you have to select the use luma option at the bottom of the transition configuration, and then just play around with a number of different LUMA's (or create one yourself which is more or less explained in the wiki ), to see if any of those luma's gives you some sort of screen modifying effect that looks like the star wars effect.

jdd wrote:
In have an image (png) of 720 px wide and film 720 pixel wide. In the timeline, the text *is* as large as the image, but on the monitor and on the rendering the text is much smaller in width

Well, this may be a question of your PiP settings, as noted above. But apart from that you should always remember that the pixel ratio on a computer screen and a television set is different (a pixel is a square on the computer, whereas it has a rectangular shape on a tv-set). If you want to import an image into a PAL video (720x576px) without distortions, you have to create your png-file with a width of 768 pixels (height is the same, 576px).

last version

and comment (in french) ... eDeroulant

One note: it's (was) not obvious (at least for me) than the small square in the center of the grafical transition windows is the video screen...

thanks for the help

I am playing around with the new kdenlive 0.7.0 beta1 version.

I encounter three "problems" or should I say things to find out:

1) The four types of transitions in 0,5 and earlier versions of kdenlive (crossfade, push, PIP and wipe) are now replaced by four other transitions in 0.7.0beta1 (affinecomposite, composite, luna and wipe). From playing with the settings in several types of transitions I get some impression of what they do, but especially the composite types are unfamiliar and a bit complex to me, I guess I would not use them apart from a sort of picture in picture scene (is this a replacement for PIP?). All the rotating options for me are at first sight just too artificial, but that's just personal opinion.
Anyhow I would appreciate if someone can write a wiki text on the new transition types and point them out for me and others.

2) Since PIP is no longer there how should scorlling credits /end titles be made now? I managed one with the wipe option (start bottom end top e.g.), but using this wipe transition the speed of scrolling and exact positioning can not be defined. Whether I shorten or lengthen either the title clip or the transition bar in the timeline, scrolling remains at the same (a bit slow) speed. Do I miss something and should I use the composite or affinecomposite transition type as substitute for the former PIP solution, and if so how to do that? Perhaps I should define start and end keyframe in (affine)Composite transitions? I am not familiar with that (yet).

3) Rather a suggestion: when applying the brightness effect on a video clip I would like a scrollbar or typebox or so for heighetning and lowering brightness of the entire clip at once.
E.g. in the window at the right of the effect stack window where some other effects can be customized. Now there is the adjustable line that is in the clip in the timeline which I guess is the only way to manage the brightness in the clip?
It is not very userfriendldy having to click the mouse a couple of times in the clip in the timeline and then moving the line at several points up or down. That is nice if the brightness must change during the clip, but inconvenient if you want just one brightness value for the entire clip and have to move the line as a whole in horizontal manner (I get parts of the line sloping up and slowing down and have to drag several points at the same vertical position to get a horizontal line back again. The easiest way for me was to double click once near the beginning and once near the ending of the clip and then drag the two created points aside to clipstart and clip end, however, after that you cannot select these two moving points again because they fall in the clip borders where your mouse changes in the arrow to lengthen or shorten the clip and doesn't change in the "other" hand type for moving the brightness line).

I hope you get what I mean out of this rather long description ;-)

Please don't consider this as complaining; I like kdenlive anyway,
I am just reporting what problems I encounter and what my first impressions are of 0.7.0, perhaps some of the problems are quite easy to solve if I only had a bit more knowledge on how to do this or that.

It seems to me that composite is the replacement for PIP.

Not sure how you'd use it for credits in this case though...