If you followed Kdenlive’s activity these last years, you know that we dedicated all our energy into a major code refactoring. During this period, which is not the most exciting since our first goal was to simply restore all the stable version’s features, we were extremely lucky to see new people joining the core team, and investing a lot of time in the project.
We are now considering to release the updated version in April, with KDE Applications 19.04. There are still a few rough edges and missing features (with many new ones added as well), but we think it now reached the point where it is possible to start working with it.
Testing day tomorrow
This is why we are organizing a test day event tomorrow, 22nd of February 2019, from 17:00 to 22:00 CET, so you can try it, report the problems you encounter and help us shape the future.
How to join ?
- Download the latest AppImage
- Make it executable (in a terminal: chmod +x ) or from your file manager
- Test it!
More tech-savy users can alternatively compile it with debug flags following this guide and send backtraces
Give us your feedback
During the event, some team members will be reachable on our #kdenlive channel on irc/freenode or via the kdenlive telegram group, and you can also leave your feedback in this Phabricator task.
Known issues
There are a couple of known problems that will be solved before release:
- Audio thumbnails in timeline eat up lots of memory, and can cause a freeze if large audio files are used, you can disable them as a workaround in larger projects
- Motion tracker not usable yet
Sorry to bother you but am really not happy with the new refactoring version and many good features in the last versions are missing, so here is my openion.
The feetures that you should target.
1- implementing better keyframe handling and curve editing, I’m using an alpha version of Olive video editor and I think you should learn from its strategy.
2- Implementing better chroma keying, you should learn from Natron.
Problems with the refactoring release.
1- Forcing splitting audio and video tracks, which is very annoying.
2- Removing the ability to add any affect or transition using right click menu on tracks.
3- The color scheme of the interface and the tracks are not clear, the previous versions were better.
These are some of my notes
I did not dive deeply in the refactoring version, so I am sure there are many more.
I hope that you care about user experience and my words will make a difference.
Regards,
The light color scheme is what I mean in the comment, the A/V tracks have the same color as the timeline.
In general, the previous color schemes are better.
I can understand your frustration, however, I feel that these features (such as curves and keyframe handling) will be added on eventually. The main point of this refactoring was to make sure that there is a stable base upon which to add a lot of cool new stuff. We can’t expect it to all happen instantaneously.
Regarding Chroma Keying, Kdenlive is built for Video editing rather than VFX, it does a good enough job for simple overlays with greenscreen.
But even with that, these are features that will be implemented eventually. For now it is most important for Kdenlive to run smoothly as a video editor.
Hello everyone,
from what I’ve experienced kdenlive’s blue screen & and chroma keying capabilities are quite impressing & powerful.
Here is one hint I found out: using an external color chooser like e.g. kcolorchooser when you’re on linux for defining your desired key color (copy hex color value into kdenlive’s fx properties) you will get much better & more precise results than using kdenlive’s internal color choosers
Kdenlive’s much appreciated & heavily uses by:
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Best regards
Frank
Dear Kdenlive Team,
First, thanks to all of you for your hard work. You’re on a very good way.
I just give my point of view as film editor (not a news editor or a youtuber).
I like :
– split video and audio by default
– wew waveforms
– blackmagic output (always good to check image through a real video output)
– zoom in/out on the monitor (a 100% scale preset should be welcome)
– enlarge height on tracks (the R and L chars for audio are too big when audio channels are splitted)
– interface is globaly very clear and easy to understand for everyone
– add descriptions in the project bin for clips
– rename tracks
– it seems to me that timeline is more reactive than before
– reorganise windows layout for dual monitor display, saving windows layout (but it will be nice to have a ‘reset to default layout’)
– keyframes on tracks
– rendering profile creation (but complex for beginner!)
Small problems that seems easy to fix :
– when the timeline cursor in on a image and when we want to use the razor tool, it doesn’t cut at the image we see on the monitor (that’s very problematic because we have to zooooooom on the timeline to adjust the cut)
The most needed feature for film editing :
– multiple timelines and import timelines (timeline imbrication). that’s very important and will bring kdenlive to a higher step for film editors. Of course, it should be implemented when the refactoring is stable but, for my point of view, it’s an essential needed feature !
– trim tools (I imagine it’s also related to refactoring stability)
– basic audio mixer
Some other remarks :
– Filters are confusing (specially the ‘misc’ section). But personnally, I don’t use a lot of filters in editing. I prefer do that in a compositing software.
– rendering profiles using intermediate format like dnxhd, prores or canopus hqx
And thank you again !
(and sorry for my approximative english…)
“There are still a few rough edges and missing features (with many new ones added as well)”
Except from launching the app and trying to figure out what’s changed, can these features (and specially the new ones) be found listed somewhere? I tried looking in your code repo, but cgit is something I always end up completely lost in! 😛
PS! Heard that KDE is seriously considering moving their code repo to GitLab, not to mention their move to Riot (Matrix) as chat solution ?
some of the changes/updates are listed here: https://community.kde.org/Kdenlive/Development/ReleaseNotes-18.12
kdenlive-19.03.70-movit-beta1-x86_64.appimage , it works?
the other .appimages are ok, but that new from 22-Feb-2019 does not want to start
The AppImage nightly build starts at 13.21 Berlin/Paris time each day follow the link on the download page.
The Movit version I have to check.
Yes you can test the Movit AppImage. It’s the actual status of integration. Any feedback is appreciated.
version 18.08.2 vs 19.03.70-movit
version 18.08.2
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Color corection
– Lift/gamma/gain & White Balance & Curves & Bezier Curves is ok,(only these use).
– Export times for 5 min 30p 1080 with nvenc / .mp4 14 mbps,
(2 min 13 sec-no corection)
(2 min 48 sec with technicolor)
I use for export: f=mp4 vcodec=nvenc_h264 vb=14000k acodec=aac ab=128k
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version 19.03.70 (kdenlive-19.03.70-movit-beta01-x86_64.appimage)
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Color corection
– Lift/gamma/gain & White Balance & Curves & Bezier Curves not working.
– Export times for 5 min 30p 1080 with nvenc / .mp4 14 mbps
– Export times for 5 min 30p 1080 with nvenc / .mp4 14 mbps,
(3 min 40 sec – no corection)
(3 min 3 sec – with technicolor)
I use for export: f=mp4 vcodec=nvenc_h264 vb=14000k acodec=aac ab=128k
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kubuntu 18.04.1 on hp 6300 sff with i3 3240/8GB ram/nvidia gt630 model kepler 384 cuda
the new version has a heavy timeline, it’s hard to see
Could you test the rendering time of the 19.03 app image? The non movit one. Link for download: https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/Kdenlive_Nightly_Appimage_Build/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/
I tried already 19.03.70-c4c4ea2-x86_64.appimage but did not mention because a little bit longer
Nevertheless it would be interesting for Corey to know the render time.
All tests & pics is here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/106223376112693/permalink/2103979293003748/
Thank you. Very helpfull
kdenlive-19.03.70-movit-beta01-x86_64.appimage runs pc with nvidia video card, but does not run on pc with video card amd r7 260x
Hi Constantin.
Does “kdenlive-19.03.70-movit-beta1-x86_64.appimage” not start? Or does “kdenlive-19.03.70-b09c02a-x86_64.appimage” not start?
Start now but do not work Lift / gamma / gain & White Balance & Curves & Bezier Curves, timeline is hard to work on, but I’m using the old version 18.08.2 using it is good. I think the version 19.03.70 is still a lot of work and cosmetics.
I tried the first time kdenlive-19.03.70-b09c02a-x86_64.appimage but I quit in favor of kdenlive-19.03.70-movit-beta1-x86_64.appimage
it was a little bit of startup problems with only kdenlive-19.03.70-movit-beta1-x86_64.appimage
it would be great to kdenlive do the same thing here
example: https://youtu.be/e1vCunEDp00?t=1992
Hello. I am a professional video editor and I would like to give advice about usability.
Software companies have been fighting with money to be called “industry standard”. That place has been occupied by the better publicided programs, not the best.
Not every editing program works the same, Avid, Premiere and Final Cut Pro and practically every program was the same. The same timeline interface. This program has adopted that kind of timeline. The best program of the last ten years was never designated industry standard, this program is Vegas Pro. So I am here to beg you to consider to learn how the timeline of that program works and adopt that interface in this most important open source effort.
So if you are interested in building the best software possible, Vegas Pro (version 14, not the latest) is the best timeline that has ever existed. The second place is Final Cut X. And a combination of both would be even better.
The second petition I have for you, that it would be even better, a dream come true, is to make this program a part of Blender.
Blender, the best open source project ever, has a video editing interface that is too basic to be used as a pro video software. If you could take this complete program and put it inside blender, well, that would be a new marvel of the world.
Thank you.
Thanks for the Feedback. What do you like specially on Vegas Pro 14 timeline? I just ones worked with Vegas as it was from Sony and I found it very intuitive. Specially the interaction between video and the audio part of the timeline.