About 30 participants joined the first Kdenlive video café last Tuesday, the 4th of May 2021! We had a nice meeting of about 2,5 hours with inspiring discussions. We got great feedback and we are already having plans to reintroduce community meetings more frequently…

Several people asked for a recording of the meeting e.g. because they were not able to join (the whole time), but we feared that this might have destroyed the informal atmosphere where people dared to speak freely. We have to think how we will do it in the future, but for this time here is a short written review of the meeting:

macOS Support

MacOS Support is still a goal we want to reach and during the past month we saw some progress there, but we are currently facing a packaging problem with the dbus system. One of the reasons for the slow progress is that none of the Kdenlive team members has a Mac or advanced knowledge in packaging and development on the macOS platform. We are tracking the progress on this GitLab issue: https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kdenlive/-/issues/993

Titler

As a constant topic we also talked about the titler. All in all the titler works well (some bugs have been recently fixed for 21.04) and in comparison to other video editors it is not bad, but there are still many ideas for improvements. The GSoC 2019 project for a QML Titler is not finally ready as there are still multi threading issues that are hard to solve – and it is only the backend, the frontend is another big task… To sum it up we have to say that improvements would be nice, but there are more important tasks to do first.

Manual

We really need help on updating the manual as it is outdated and features are missing. In consequence users don’t know how to use some features and there are again and again the same questions on Kdenlive’s support channels. The written manual has a different purpose than videos (the manual is more about look for details whereas video tutorials are for “new comers” explaining whole workflows), both are important. If you want to give something back to the community helping in the manual work group is a great possibility. Even if you don’t feel comfortable with writing texts you can e.g. update screenshots! To get involved read https://community.kde.org/Kdenlive/Workgroup/Documentation.

Marketing, Donations, Social Media,…

We heard several questions around this topic during the café: why is Kdenlive not present on social media platforms like Twitter, YouTube, Mastodon? Why is there no way to donate to for Kdenlives development? What about a Showcase (like e.g. https://krita-artists.org/c/artwork/5/l/top)? Will Kdenlive come to the Microsoft Store?

For all these questions the answer is almost the same. All these things are nice to have and most of them are already on our todo list. However they are also related to questions concerning branding and legal things like a trademark. We want to solve these issues first before we go further. Another aspect is the work that is required for maintaining all the social media channels, donations, etc.: we are a small team of volunteers and at the moment we would not have the capacity to mange all of this without neglecting other important things.

By the way: Kdenlive is already on Telegram, Matrix, IRC, the KDE Forum and reddit. Further more it is possible to donate to KDE. Kdenlives benefits form those donations as it uses the KDE infrastructure and things like the Sprints are payed by KDE. However if you don’t want to donate to KDE we recommend putting the money aside to donate to Kdenlive as soon as possible in a hopefully not too distant future.

Roadmap for the near future

Jean-Baptiste is currently working on a refactoring of the jobmanager to fix some major performance issues. A few days ago version 7 of Kdenlives media backend MLT has been released and we already made some steps to support the new version. MLT7 supports time remapping and we want to add this high requested feature soon. Two other features we are going to work on are multiple timelines and advanced trimming tools. During the past releases we had good experience with 1-2 big new features per release and beside that work on polishing and bug fixing.

Don’t miss these events!

Community member Michael Tunnell will start a new series of video editing tutorials with Kdenlive soon and Massimo from the Kdenlive team has been invited to his live video podcast for Sunday, May the 16th.

Roxane is already known by the community for here awesome kdenlive tutorials and will give a Kdenlive live demo on Saturday, May the 29th at the Libre Graphics Meeting 2021!

8 Comments

Davy Bartoloni on May 10, 2021 at 12:02 PM

i just see Krita on the Microsoft store… with a cost of 9.79$ (whattt???) i can understand 1 or 1.99$ for an opensource/free application.. but 10$??? is this happening also with Kdenlive?
- Michael Tunnell on May 12, 2021 at 6:00 PM
  
  @Davy you dont have to get it from the store to use Krita on Windows. . . .you can just download it for free from the website. Plus I think under $10 is VERY VERY cheap and arguably deserves to be much higher than that and I’d also say the same for Kdenlive.
  - Rey on June 9, 2021 at 7:04 PM
    
    Unless you work as a professional 10$ is a high price for most of the countries, because in most of the poor countries 10$ is like 100$ or more in USA :), but yeah as long as there is a free version to download its all fine 🙂
    - Farid Abdelnour on June 9, 2021 at 11:51 PM
      
      There will always be a free and libre version!
willbot-studios on May 11, 2021 at 9:58 AM

Krita is free and open source so it can be used and downloaded for free… Being open source means it is illegal to sell it. Unless the user already modified the source code and personalized or changed the program… If not, he has no right to sell the open source work of others for personal gain.

If that is what is happening.
- Ricardo on May 30, 2021 at 1:11 AM
  
  I’m sorry but no, selling(*) open source/free/FLOSS software is *not* illegal.
  
  It’s not only perfectly legal, it’s how companies like RedHat and SUSE started bussines. Even Stalman himself used to sell tapes with Emacs!
  
  For example this is an excerpt from the GPL 3.0 (https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html):
  
  “4. Conveying Verbatim Copies.
  …
  You may charge any price or no price for each copy that you convey, and you may offer support or warranty protection for a fee.”
  
  (What’s more, a license that forbides you to charge a fee for distributing copies might not even be considered an open source license, but I’m not 100% sure on this point).
  
  What you cannot sell is the copyright of open source not authored by you, but that’s true of every copyrighted work.
  
  (*) Selling might be the wrong word, As software is intangible, you’re paying for the transfer of it in the case of FLOSS, and the right to use it in case of propietary software.
Loïc Vanderstichelen on May 20, 2021 at 2:11 AM

+1 for implementing multiple timelines and Advanced Trimming Tools features.
It give possibility to work on more complex editing.
I don’t know if audio mapper is a also a planned feature ?
- Farid Abdelnour on May 20, 2021 at 2:40 PM
  
  It definitely is, see here:https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kdenlive/-/issues/754